Critics: What They Say

Top criticisms:

Injury : It will hurt the golfers back.

We have had the largest quantity of players of any instructor on the tour over the past four years. Not one of our players have missed even a single tournament to injury. Compare that to Tiger Woods, the world’s greatest player who misses 8  months due to major knee surgery. Paul Casey, another top player missed 8 months with broken ribs which resulted from a drill he was working on with Peter Kostis. Greg Norman, former No. 1 player in the world recently had back surgery. Yet their methods or instructors are not considered to cause injuries. This is because the techniques they use are so vaguely described, they are at best abstract.  This makes them difficult to criticize. Doctors have scrutinized the Stack & Tilt® swing many times, all of which result in their supporting our method as safe for the golfer’s back. Only those who do not fully investigate it are left leveling that criticism.

You cannot hit the driver:

This procedure makes the descent on the ball to steep, so one cannot hit the driver high enough.

Troy Matteson is currently in the top 10 of the driving distance statistic on the PGA Tour, marking the highest of his career. Mike Weir added 8 yards to his driving distance with Stack & Tilt while increasing his world ranking 30 spots . Aaron Baddeley hit 8 percent more fairways using Stack & Tilt while increasing his world ranking 160 spots. Charlie Wi increased his total driving by 100 spots while increasing his world ranking 150 spots during the past few seasons. These are merely a few examples.  Different players need different things, because the Stack & Tilt® system is a system broad enough to explain all swings it can help people with different needs as illustrated by this variety of tour players. Furthermore, there is a fundamental misconception on what it takes to hit the ball high while still hitting it straight.

Teaching golfers a system is bad :

Not all golfers are the same, not all swings are the same.

Stack & Tilt Critics

Simply because all golfers swings are not the same does not mean they do not operate by the same rules. The word “system” is used in golf with a negative connotation, insinuating that all golfers are given the same instructions. Any serious endeavor has a system, from the doctor to the surgeon to the pharmacist to the patient systematically following the doctor’s orders. Therefore, golf is left to chaos resulting from the pretense that all people are different. The beginning golfer is the one who suffers from this chaos the greatest amount, as there is not an organized approach to learning the game. We need simple metrics in the beginning that advance in sophistication as the golfer’s skill level increases. Not random arbitrary.

The players you teach are not necessarily the highest ranked players in the world.  If your methods are so good why aren’t they winning every tournament?

Firstly, this is because every tournament is filled with 140 great players and only 1 gets to win. Imagine if Michael Jordan had to beat 140 teams at once instead of one team at a time. After that, because of the perception of our methods as being radical we have never taught the highest ranked players. Mike Weir was the highest ranked player who has approached us, he was ranked 48th in the world when we  started with him and reached 17th while with us. The higher ranked players are not compelled to change.  As we have been perceived as agents of change or been labeled the teachers of last resort because we have helped players who have not succeeded through traditional channels. This results in us not being a top player’s first choice.  The ironic thing is the principles we believe in are most traditional in the truest sense of the word.

For us to succeed in changing the way the golf world teaches golf, our advisers told us we had to teach the number one player  in the world. They said mainstream success in this business has only come to those who walked beside the game greatest players. Examples such as Jack Nicklaus and Jack Grout, Nick Faldo and David Leadbetter, Tiger Woods and Butch Harmon and now Hank Haney all come to mind.  We disagree. We say the truest validation of any system would be one that helps the largest number of players. To help players that have not had success by other means says a lot more than helping a player who already won on a consistent basis. A total understanding of that fact would attract higher profile players as well as a greater quantity of players. Finally, this system is the most scrutinized golf method in the history of golf which leads us to believe we are on the right track. If it wasn’t relevant, people would not still be talking about it, and probably would never have even started. The level of scrutiny in part comes from the specificity whereas more abstract methods leave a lot to the imagination.


People are all built different, are you prescribing they all swing the same?

The answer is no, however, they all operate from the same set of rules. For instance, the laws that govern how the the ball flies. This is the most basic question in learning to play golf.  What gives the ball its initial direction? When asking the best players in the world and the best coaches in forums all over the world, 70 percent of the players and coaches answer the question wrong. This is the most basic element in learning how to play the game.

Contemporary teaching is biased towards slicing and hitting the ground behind the ball. This is why the masses have these problems. Slicing is not inherent in playing the game, it’s rooted in the traditional approach in describing the swing. Under the pretense that shifting the weight creates power, masses of golfers are taught to slice and hit the ground behind the ball.

What is the first thing you think a golfer needs to know?

This is part of redefining the fundamentals of golf. The teaching manuals teach us that it is the grip, alignment, posture, and stance (GAPS) that are the fundamentals.  However, they are not standards exhibited by the game’s best players. If you go to any professional or elite amateur tournament and examine the players, you will see all of the players have different grips, different alignments, different postures, and different stances. If one had to aim exactly at a target 200 yards away with a golf club, it would be an impossible game. Yet these are the first things beginning golfers are taught.  This wastes a lot of their formative hours and makes the barrier to entry to golf too high. The first thing that separates a good player from a bad one is the ability to swing and hit the ground in the same place time after time. The poorest players hit the ground farther back and with a wider dispersion than the expert.


The July 2007 Golf Digest article received the largest response of any article in Golf Digest history. As due diligence for this article Golf Digest sent one of their editors to Los Angeles  to watch us teach a blind study group of students they picked off the range at random. Golf Digest then wrote the original fifteen page article in their July 2007 issue. There have been no other documented situations where an instructor had to audition or demonstrate their teaching to Golf Digest before an article was to be published.

No description in the history of golf teaching has received so much scrutiny.

Google entries for Stack &Tilt® are larger than most top teachers in the world combined.

Golf swing and instruction web site traffic is dominated by Stack & Tilt discussion.

No other golf swing technique has been as widely scrutinized on television.

No player that has left Stack & Tilt instruction has improved their world ranking after leaving.

7 different players have won tournaments using Stack & Tilt instruction. Five of them were first time winners, the sixth had won once, the seventh had not won in five years. All of these wins came within one year of practicing the Stack & Tilt system.

3 other players who had not had a top 10 in their career, finished second within 6 months of applying Stack & Tilt principles. Tjart Van der Walt at the Harford in 2005 , Charlie Wi  at San Antonio in 2008 and New Orleans in 2009.